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02 December 2008 @ 08:39 pm
In Which We Talk About Morons  
Actually, let's start by talking about someone very smart who probably shouldn't get her knickers in a twist over something moronic.

One of my favorite bloggers, Amalah, wrote a post today about Dennis Leary stating in his book, Why We Suck: A Feel Good Guide to Staying Fat, Loud, Lazy and Stupid, that there is no such thing as autism.

Amalah's son, Noah, has been diagnosed with Sensory Integration Dysfunction, a disorder that is, in some respects, similar to autism. So naturally, Amalah takes Leary's remarks about autism being a catchall diagnosis for bratty children of lazy parents very, very personally. However:

1. Soccer moms are not exactly Leary's intended audience in the first place. Most of the up-in-arms mothers who are raising a stink about Leary all over the internet ran out and bought the book just so they could read for themselves what he wrote. To which Leary responded, "KA-CHING!" Or they haven't read it for themselves at all, and they're just throwing a fit about something someone told them in the carpool line. Which is, after all, the American Way.

2. No one with any sense takes Dennis Leary, of all people, seriously. He's an actor and a comedian, for God's sake. The book (which I have, like a good American, not read) is probably entertaining, but when I want to read an author who will inform my views of the world, I do not choose Dennis-Effing-Leary. And I don't imagine anyone who's not a boy younger than 14 does either.

3. Like autism researchers around the world are really gonna throw up and their hands and exclaim, "Dennis Leary says autism is bullshit? Well, screw you guys, I'm goin' home!"

Personally, I believe that autism and Asperger syndrome are real, if overdiagnosed, disorders. While I think they are possibly caused by something environmental, I doubt they're caused by childhood vaccines, which, thanks to celebrity big-mouths like Jenny McCarthy, is the cause du jour.

You wanna get mad about something, Amalah? How about the fact that parents these days are refusing to vaccinate their children against deadly transmittable diseases because a nitwit famous for showing her hooters to the world via Playboy screams to anyone who will listen that those life-saving vaccines MIGHT cause a disorder that neurologists and other medical experts know very little about, including what its causes might be?

As for me, I'll get mad about THAT, thanks.

However, even though I think Dennis Leary hasn't much to offer the world in the way of wisdom, he does have a point about one thing:

Parents HAVE to take responsibility for their children.

I'm certainly not knocking all parents here; I know some truly stellar examples of parents. I won't name any names in the interest of privacy, but I have a friend whose son has ADD. Upon hearing that diagnosis, most modern parents would have driven straight to the pharmacy for their economy-sized bottle of Drug This Kid the Hell Out, PLEASE.

Not this lady.

She and her family tried (and I mean REALLY tried - not just, "oh, we did that for 15 minutes and it didn't work!") every behavior-modification technique known to MAN before they resorted to medication. Yes, the kid is on medication now, but medication combined with the afore-mentioned techniques. And the message they've sent their kid is an important one: Drugs are not the first solution, they're the LAST.

That's a good example. Now let me give you a bad one:

For the second time, I sat in Mass next to a little boy who has severe Tourette's syndrome. He doesn't have the vocal tics normally associated with Tourette's. He has the physical ones.

His mother always brings him to the noon Mass, the most crowded one, and sits in the center of a pew.

I spent Mass practically crawling into the lap of the old lady next to me, trying to keep from getting smacked in the face by this kid.

I am in no way unsympathetic to people with physical and mental handicaps. My aunt Carol, who lives with my parents, is mentally handicapped. But this kid...oh, this kid. I could have punched his mother in the face.

He flailed uncontrollably throughout the entire Mass. As is common with Tourette's, the more he tried to sit still, the worse he got. When it came time to kneel, he hit his chin on the back of the pew in front of him because he had a tic wherein his knees came out from under him and he flung his arms behind him.

He was utterly humiliated. He kept looking at me apologetically with tears in his eyes. I gave him a smile and then glared daggers over his head at his seemingly-oblivious mother.

I don't know how much anyone here knows about Catholicism, but our obligation to attend Mass on Sundays is an extremely serious one. So I don't blame her one bit for bringing him to church. I would do the same thing in her position, EXCEPT
--I would seat the child on the end of the pew, nearest the aisle. That way, he couldn't hit anyone but me, OR
--I would bring him to an earlier or later (less-crowded) Mass so that we would have more room in the pew around us, OR
--I would sit with him in the Cry Room. (The sound-proofed room where parents with babies sit. NO, it's not a place for us to work out our Catholic guilt.)

But not this lady. No, sir. She doesn't care that those around her can't pay attention to anything the priest is saying, that someone might be injured OR that her child is mortified. Just as long as she can sleep late on Sunday and make a spectacle of the both of them.

I told this story to a friend of mine who is a mother of a small child. She didn't actually say that I am a heartless monster and that she hopes God curses me with 20 developmentally-disabled children (and she absolutely is the sort of person who would view a child who is anything less than "perfect" as a curse), but that was the gist of her response. She actually used the word "un-Christian," and she is very lucky indeed that the words "narcissistic bitch" weren't bandied about as well.

(It's OK; her kid is a B-R-A-T brat from hell. The apple doesn't fall far and all that.)

So what do you guys think? Have you had an experience like this? Is the mother in the wrong, or am I just cruel?

And is Dennis Leary a 21st century prophet and I'm just missing the boat?



Your thankfully-uninjured
Kel
 
 
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( 13 comments — Post a new comment )
dakwallah[info]dakwallah on December 3rd, 2008 04:08 am (UTC)
Denis Leary is 20th (and 21st) century profit.
Jules[info]ms_goose_says on December 3rd, 2008 04:21 am (UTC)
Oh for heaven's sake Dak.

I think the mother at church should not have placed her child in a situation where he had to look tearfully at someone in deep shame and embarrassment due to his uncontrollable condition.

Being the mother of a non neuro typical kid (and probably being far from neuro typical myself) I think that there is a wide variety of ways people express themselves. I do think that Americans get all caught up in cause du jours. I have no idea if vaccines cause austism. I doubt it.

But Leary is an asshat. I do know that.
Kelly[info]clothes_slut on December 3rd, 2008 04:24 am (UTC)
Comments like that are why we *heart* the Dak!

I think Dennis Leary is an UNFUNNY asshat, which is even worse than being an asshat. If you're gonna do it, at least make it funny, right?
Jules[info]ms_goose_says on December 3rd, 2008 04:27 am (UTC)
You got it. Funny makes up for a lot.
da Penguin: penguin typing[info]nawlins_penguin on December 3rd, 2008 05:59 am (UTC)
Well, you certainly touch a lot of points here. I'll save Leary for last comment.

As a parent, I recognize I am truly blessed to have three very healthy, intelligent, beautiful children. The parents of special needs children have a great challenge, indeed, as parenting itself is already a monumental task. But, as with all things, the parents of special needs children can be selfish jerkoffs just as well as any other parents.

There are those who find it convenient to blame the distractions of a child's behavior on the child. "Well, what can I do? I have to go to mass and God doesn't care how I do it." Yes, that may be true, but God isn't sitting in the row behind you struggling to get his kneeler down while your child is pantomiming Bridge Over the River Kwai. I'm the last person who should criticize a fellow Catholic, but there are considerations when you obviously know your child can be a distraction to others. When my kids were infants, the second they started a row in mass, I was out the door with them. That remained my standard up through their toddler years. I can't speak for others, in particular this woman. I guess it's not fair to say something like "She should know better" or "She knows her son is a distraction and she does nothing." I think that can be avoided by appropriate seating strategy for mass, but I don't know how crowded your church is. Wouldn't be hard in my parish, but my church is friggin huge.

I digress.

I don't think you're "un-Christian" for voicing your opinion but it is possible you don't know the whole story. Personally I think she has poor skills, but what do I know anyway?

As for Mr Leary's commentary, I don't know how to address that. While I don't know him personally, I get the impression he can be a prick, but not necessarily a prick to everybody. He's pretty much been the outside saviour of the New Orleans fire department, donating equipment from his foundation and actually assisting, both physically and financially, in rebuilding firehouses here. But that doesn't mean he's not an asshole.

I find his choice of wording a little poor. I think, in the place of autism, he could have easily used ADD or ADHD or ABACAB or whatever the hell flavor of unclassified, misunderstood ailments the child analysts of today are willing to dole out. I think autism, as well as ADD and the others, is not an impairment fully understood by medical science. Hell, since ADD first entered our collective culture it's been broken down into myriad variations on the theme. Autism as well, but the empirical observations are wide and plentiful. Personally, I think Leary just doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. And yes, while there are exactly 1.21 jigawillion blogs bitching about him as the dick du jour, they're only standing to improve what was likely a poor selling tome in the first place.

Well. I haven't really gone anywhere with this comment, have I? Suffice it to say you're not a bad person, Kel, nor or are you a heathen for wishing a mother could have some consideration for her own child as well as the others around them.
Kelly[info]clothes_slut on December 3rd, 2008 06:06 am (UTC)
I don't believe I've told you yet today how much I love you.
da Penguin[info]nawlins_penguin on December 3rd, 2008 06:10 am (UTC)
Perhaps you have, but I'm more than willing to hear it again and again.
a parallel life lost to the void[info]camilleyun on December 3rd, 2008 08:03 am (UTC)
As you know, I don't have kids but Josh does. I am not a fan. I was chatting with my friend and referred to them as brats one day. She was appalled at my visceral reaction. Of course I don't treat them badly. I went out of my way when they were here to do whatever I had to in order to make the visit pleasant including spending 9,000 of my credit card reward points to get his daughter a dollhouse. I bought all his daughter's Christmas gifts by myself, encouraged Josh to write to them every week, and bought Josh's plane ticket to visit them in a couple of weeks. I leave the boy things up to Josh but I digress. I know the right things to do and the right way to behave. Obviously in front of them I would never say anything but behind closed doors Josh knows I'd prefer to never have to deal with his kids [which is why I am not a parent myself and why made a rule to never date men with children even though I clearly broke it]. Just because I have a visceral reaction and think children in general are brats and annoying, doesn't mean anything with regard to how I treat them. That being said, I strongly suspect Denis Leary is not that different. He's very outspoken. This is a man who once said he wanted Cindy Crawford naked on top of the Empire State Building eating an Eskimo Pie. I'm pretty sure many of the things he says are statements intended to cause a reaction. He's a very over the top personality and not everyone appreciates that sort of humor. I guess I relate in many ways since I tend to be extreme. I worked in social services for many years and the longest job I had there was working with developmentally disabled people. My boss and I would refer to them as ree rees but of course not to their face ever. I went above and beyond to help these people but yet I will still call them retards. I couldn't give a rat's ass about being politically correct. I certainly watch my mouth around people I know would get offended but I think you get the point. I have very mild OCD and Asperger's. These things are real and I spend way more time trying to get my anxiety under control than anything else so those are secondary. I don't have insurance so I don't have medication and even if I did my experiences with that were not so good. It's hard to find the right biochemical combination. They either make me insane and very agitated or do nothing at all. It's all trial and error and can take a long time to find the correct concoction. About Tourette's...I once dated a guy with Tourette's. Imagine that. I really do have a story for almost anything. When it comes to medication after a while it stops working because the body adjusts to it and still fires of the neurons anyway so a different medication that the body isn't used to needs to be tried. He had a physical tic and we'd go to a restaurant then he'd shake the table accidentally and people would stare with waitstaff asking if he is ok. He went from being a homeless drug addict and alcoholic to becoming a lawyer and homeowner.
gotmusic69[info]gotmusic69 on December 3rd, 2008 12:33 pm (UTC)
First, you are non an unholy person just because your friend may or may not be an idiot. That poor kid at Mass...One of my biggest fears as a mom is that I will one day be totally clueless/blind to what is going on with my child. Hopefully the mom at mass will realize her mistake soon.

Second. When I found out I was pregnant with Camryn, my mother in law, of all people, bought me Jenny McCarthy's first book, Belly Laughs. It was the funniest thing I've ever read (possibly because I was a hormonal mess) so I read all her other books too, including the one about her son's autism. She thinks that his immune system was weak from the start, and that having vaccines only made it worse. In her book, she argues that there should be some sort of "test" to make sure that a child can handle a vaccine before it's given, which I agree with. Now, of course, in her sound bites, you only hear the "vaccines are so bad omg!" bit, but that isn't the whole story. Also, when it came time for Camryn's MMR shots, I was really, really worried...I had no real reason to be since she'd never reacted to one before, but the pediatritican said (among other enviromental factors that I can't recall) that more autism cases were reported/diagnosed in California than any other state in the union. Hmm. Not sure really what that means, but it was interesting.

Third, I *totally* agree with you on parents taking responsibilty for their children. I pray that, for the most part, Andy and I do, so that Camryn won't grow up to be a total brat. Also case in point...my 8 year old brother has ADD, and is on medication for it. But he also eats a crap shit ton of sugar every day. Hmm. I've tried to tell my mom politely that the sugar OD every day just might have something to do with his behavior (certainly not all, though.) but it goes in one ear and out the other.

Fourth, Dennis Leary....eh. He's an idiot.

ok this might be the longest comment of mine ever.
Kelly[info]clothes_slut on December 3rd, 2008 08:40 pm (UTC)
See, and that's the other thing - you are an INFORMED parent. You don't just say, "Well, Hootie McCarthy told me not to vaccinate my kid 'cause it'll make somethin' BAD happen, so hold them thar vaccines, Doc!"

WAY too many parents don't bother to do any responsible research. You did, and you made your decision accordingly.

And anyway, Smooshie's a badass. You could vaccinate her with motor oil and she'd just laugh.
gotmusic69[info]gotmusic69 on December 3rd, 2008 09:11 pm (UTC)
aw, look at me, being all responsible!

and smooshie *is* a badass. :)
Wally[info]wallybat on December 3rd, 2008 01:44 pm (UTC)
it's one thign to try to expose her kid to church etc...but it's another to put him in a humiliating position and you in eye poking danger. i agree....sit in the back row, end of pew or go to 8:am mass or something.

i like dennis leary as an actor, but not the comedian...and no i haven't read his book. he's very opinionated and sensationalistic. so good for him for getting ppl in a tizzy and selling more books. people are entitled to their opinions, maybe it'll make people think harder.
disenchant[info]disenchant on December 3rd, 2008 03:47 pm (UTC)
I think it's sad the way things celebrities say get taken out of context and blown up all over the news. And of course celebrities don't DO anything about it because "there's no such thing as bad press."

I will not be running out to read Dennis Leary's book, but I do know he released an album entitled "No Cure For Cancer" and a song called "Asshole" so really, I can't take anything he says seriously!

And I were I famous, I might make some crazy statement in one of MY books like "there's no such thing as George Bush!" just to get people riled up and spike book sales and free buzz just from people talking about it.

Having worked in an autistic room, of COURSE there is such a thing as autism. The question is...is it a DISEASE or a SYMPTOM? Perhaps that is what he was talking about, autism may be symptoms of an underlying health issue. And after hearing from many parents who have treated their children naturally like Jenny McCarthy has, their children no longer display symptoms.

As for ADD, having also worked with kids with ADD or ADHD it most definitely exists...but as symptoms of many different underlying problems, and each child may have different reasons and most certainly can be cured if one takes the time and knows how.

I always think of my friend Phil, who has Tourettes and became a DJ for a very big Chicago radio station. Anything can happen!
 
 

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